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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 3:26 am

Uppar ghazal vaali post naal related.....

Punjabi vich ghazal bahut vadhia ho sakdi hai je kise nu gaoni aondi howe. Noor Jehan was a master. Ohna di awaa kaafi bhaari ho gayi si later on.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby djp » October 27th, 2011, 4:41 am

Film: Batwara (1983)
Song: Ik Tere Waal Kaale
Singer: Mahendra Kapoor
Music: Kamal Kant

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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 5:06 am

Chronologically dekhya jaawe, taa Punjabi film music went downhill from late 1970 onwards. Both lyrics and music.

Can we say that Jagjit Singh was the last sikh fully trained in Indian Classical music for commercial purposes? I am not talking about the people who are restricted to religious 'kirtan' on select instruments. Jagjit Singh was a student from a generation before 1970s.

It means, before 1970s, we had a hub of classically trained instrumentalists who knew what to use when. This is very evident from older songs.

People may hate me for saying this, but I do believe that late 1970s onwards, due to political turmoil, a selective and targeted segregation of Hindu culture vs Sikh culture was done. We all know it happened. And it is now evident that it trickled down to music level. Indian Classical music has its old original roots and the languages used to teach to students at lower level are Brajbhasha, Avadhi, Sanskrit too. So, may be few wanted to learn as it was forbidden.

I would blame this as much on Delhi govt. as on local religious leaders at village or town level. Both the sides. And both can not be forgiven for this.

Not keeping in mind that Guru Granth Saahib has Braj Bhasha, Persian too. Not keeping in mind that Guru Arjun Dev ji classified music in Indian raag system which was prevalent back then.

Even after 30 and ongoing Islamist years, still Pakistan has many musicians and singers who take the support of languages meant for Hindu Indians for teaching purposes. If they can keep the culture intact, why could we not when our own gurus gifted it that?

I also see the unprecedented success of Chamkila, again early 80s, as the watershed between original Punjabi music and later one. I discussed it thoroughly with a PP member, and am awaiting some reply on this. Did he and others like him become so popular because of politics influenced cultural change?

Enna ki tempering karni culture de naal, ke sangeet sikhaon vaala vee koi na bache?

Before someone says the names of few singers today who are trained, we should keep in mind that it means 'thorough training'. Jagjit Singh used to compose tunes for himself. And Lata/Asha sung his tunes in his albums.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 5:06 am

Edit nahin kar sakde......first line vich ...*late 1970s onwards.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 5:15 am

Edit nahin kar sakde....

May be blatant Islamic years of Pakistan had Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan and Noor Jehan, both of whom could get away after singing songs in the language like below....and no one could dare to force any code on them. Rest youngster keen music learners just followed them.

'piya re, piya re, thaare bina laage nahin, maara jiya re'..

'saanson ki mala pe simroon main pi ka naam'.....simran karna and 'pi', 'piya' are not Islamic concepts.

'Baawri chakori kare duniya se chori chori chanda se pyaar'.......chanda is not an Urdu word. Chaand is Urdu. Sung by Sajjad Ali in front of Noor Jehan on national television during 25th year celebration of PTV as a tribute to her. It was an original by Noor Jehan.

Bus geya tu sautniya ke duwaar sajjna.....sung by Noor Jehan for PTV many times.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby djp » October 27th, 2011, 5:30 am

Film: Balbeero Bhabi (1981)
Song: Sucha Yaar Bina
Singer: Kuldip Manak
Music: Kuldip Manak


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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby 5jabiportal » October 27th, 2011, 6:23 am

Balbiro bhabi vi lai aandi kichi jaa kamm nu!!!

@rkahlon: did you miss the disco trend and replacing of the older generation of musicians in the late 70's entiirely? the newer ones that came worked mostly with the "do gana" singers and progressed to films from there. I don't think it had much to do with anything political until the late 80's when only jatt movies started coming out.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 6:26 am

Disco trend was very short-lived and I think it picked up because of the people who had gone to UK. Isn't it? Or may be I am forgetting it.

Somehow, our local village people did not identify much with even UK based earlier songs except Malkit Singh.

About Indian Classical......people who taught Indian Classical in Punjab etc. were mainly Hindu Pandits. Complete absence of that music even in the albums of those who are born and brought up in India after 80s speaks a lot.

Not talking about Salim here. But the likes of Diljit, Harjit Harman, etc. etc.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby 5jabiportal » October 27th, 2011, 6:36 am

Nahin by the late 70's mostly sikhs were teaching classical music. Hindu pandits here and there but not as much as before the 60's their next generation got educated and didnot go for the profession.....classical just fell out of favour when rock n roll hit hindi films in the early 70's. Sikhs still taught it for obvious religious reasons. I remember classical didnot have much opposition at all cuz it wasn't that big anyway....punjab was all into either hindi film songs or what they called punjabi "folk" which was not folk at all and that trend had gone on since the mid to late 70's.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 6:40 am

Do not know.

May be earlier Punjabi film music also had an unaccounted contribution of Rafi in compositions. Rafi had spent time as student of Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. He could contribute to simpler compositions.

Folk ta folk nahin see, that is right.

Asli folk ta hun eh CS vaale vee gaa rahe ne vich-vich......chup-chup....ethe nahin gall karni.

Surinder Kaur ton baad folk khatam ho geya in truest sense. She was a classical singer, she knew how to sing which thing. That time also had a huge influence of Noor all over sub-continent, so a constant inspiration was there.

Hairaani vaali gall hai, Uttam Singh ton bina we do not have a very good Sikh music director. Or am I missing someone?
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby djp » October 27th, 2011, 7:17 am

Batwara was the film that introduced Yograj Singh as an actor in 1983. mainu theek lagi film.

5jabiportal wrote:Lol....Jeeja Sali, eh kithon labh lyanda.........bada vajaya es nu doordarshan te radio valeyan ne punjab vich kise vele........te pata ni kinne ashiqan ne......very funny picturisation. Punjabi movies were known for their comedy.


oh you should check out Devki Anand singing it live then...



5jabiportal wrote:Balbiro bhabi vi lai aandi kichi jaa kamm nu!!!


aaho :rofl:

rkahlon wrote:Asli folk ta hun eh CS vaale vee gaa rahe ne vich-vich......chup-chup....ethe nahin gall karni.


main Pepsi Studio shuru kar dehna :rofl:
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby ma_boli_punjabi » October 27th, 2011, 10:07 am

rkahlon wrote:
Asli folk ta hun eh CS vaale vee gaa rahe ne vich-vich......chup-chup....ethe nahin gall karni.


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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 10:42 am

@MBP.....I am your senior.

Gaana -

Is this hero Joy Mukerji? Love in Tokyo vaala? Yeah!!!! Seems so.

I can also see Manorma here. Villains vee ohi ne jehde main puraani Hindi films vich bahut dekhe ne.

The title is Mohd. Rafi, but the voice and diction is not of Rafi, I think so. Wrongly labeled.
Asha Bhonsle's voice is instantly recognizable.

Film -Dupatta.

ਮੁੰਡਾ ਕੁੜੀਆਂ ਤੱਕਣ ਦਾ ਮਾਰਾ, ਗਲੀਆਂ ਵਿਚ ਗੁੜ ਵੰਡਦਾ,

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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby 5jabiportal » October 27th, 2011, 10:56 am

^^^^^^^^
Lol........Sonia Sahni did Punjabi movies?? thats probably the most traditional clothes she ever wore on screen.....cuz her hindi movie roles were not traditional at all, not even back then.


Film - Pardesi Dhola (Punjabi) 1962,
MD - Sapan Jagmohan,
Lyricist - Verma Malik,
Singers - Mohd.Rafi & Asha Bhonsle
Actors - Indira Billi and Ravindra Kapoor
Chunni Apni Nu Rang Keeta

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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 11:03 am

Old Punjabi movie songs were best in boy-girl chhed-chhaad...equal footage to girl....and what a lyrics.....


This song has such a wonderful lyrics.....and what an acting by the lead actress.

Film - Pind di Kudi (old).

Singers - Mohd. Rafi, Shamshad Begum.

ਜੈਲਦਾਰਾ ਪੁੱਤ ਨੂੰ ਤੂੰ ਸਮਝਾ ਲੈ, ਕੇ ਵੱਟੇ ਮਾਰੇ ਘੜਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ,
ਘੜੇ ਤੋੜ ਕੇ ਨਵੇਂ ਲੈ ਦੇਣੇ, ਨੀ ਏਹੋ ਕਮ ਛੜਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ,

ਘੜਾ ਤੋੜਿਆ ਤੇ ਲੱਕ ਤੇਰਾ ਤੋੜ ਦੂੰ, ਮੈਂ ਸਿਧਾ ਕੀਤਾ ਬੜਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ,...kudi munde nu kehndi hai....!!!!
ਗੁੱਸਾ ਜਾਣ ਦੇ ਤੇ ਗੱਲ ਕਰ ਮਿਠੀਆਂ, ਨੀ ਚਿਰ ਹੋਇਆ ਲੜਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ..

ਜਦੋਂ ਮੁਛ੍ਹ ਨੂੰ ਮਰੋੜਾ ਦੇਵਾਂ, ਤਾਂ ਠੂਹੇਂ ਵਾਂਗੂ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਲੜ ਦੀ,
ਲਖ ਮੰਤਰ ਆਓਂਦੇ ਗੁੱਤ ਨੂੰ, ਇਹ ਠੂਹੇਂ ਨੂੰ ਤੇ ਇੰਜ ਫੜ ਦੀ..

ਜੁੱਤੀ ਛਡ ਕੇ ਖੇਸ ਚੋਂ ਨੱਸ ਗਈ, ਕੇ ਜੱਟ ਨੇ ਖੰਘੂਰਾ ਮਾਰਿਆ,
ਜਦੋਂ ਮੁੰਡੇ ਨੂ ਪੰਚੈਤੇ ਸੱਦਿਆ, ਕੁੜੀ ਦੇ ਆ ਕੇ ਪੈਰੀਂ ਪੈ ਗਿਆ......lol.....who wrote the lyrics????
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby djp » October 27th, 2011, 11:08 am

Film: Balbeero Bhabi (1981)
Song: Boliyan
Singer: Kuldip Manak & Gurmeet Bawa
Music: Kuldip Manak


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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby JobanjeetKharal » October 27th, 2011, 11:10 am

@5jabiportal-22 jitho tak meri knowledge hain sonia sahni ne 4-5 punjabi movies kittiyan jihna wich os ne punjabi suit payye si....ik punjabi movie si 'change mande tere bande' ehde wich badi bibi kuri bani si...
Tanu_Herman To Joban Veer:
Tu vi phull gulaab da veera,
dhuppe jawe kamlaah,
je main hovan baddli,
sooraj lawa chupaa..

Joban To Tanu Bhain:
Teri vi boli mithi lagge bhaine,
jeo sharbat di ghutt,
tan man mera tharr geya,
koi tuttan dilla de dukh.
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby 5jabiportal » October 27th, 2011, 11:15 am

A funny parody of hindi film music in Punjabi...never seen this in punjabi movies.

Film - Sat Saaliyaan (Punjabi) 1964,
MD - S.Madan,
Lyricist - Naqsh Lyallpuri,
Singers - Mohd.Rafi, Suman Kalyanpur & Kamal Barot


Bahut Shukriya Badi Meharbaani (Parody)



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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby rkahlon » October 27th, 2011, 11:16 am

Saareyaan nu Sonia Sahni da pata...I never knew her. Except for her Bobby role
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Re: Old Punjabi Movie Songs

Postby djp » October 27th, 2011, 11:26 am

Film: Gori Diyan Jhanjhran (1981)
Song: Ik Gal Puchhaan
Singer: Mohd.Rafi & Dilraj Kaur
Music: Pandit Hemraj


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