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Re: Honour Killing

Postby Bling-Singh » July 5th, 2010, 7:54 pm

ida koi ilaaz nai ho sakda

janta jini der tak india ch literacy rate increase ni hunda


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je kise yaar dost di gf sohni hove te us te akh rakh k apne hi yaar da murder kar dinde ne

eh case patiale ch mere gym de coach naal hoya si

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Re: Honour Killing

Postby jagwinder15 » July 5th, 2010, 10:09 pm

Honour Killing...m totaly againest it..
Ajj ik case hor ho gya...
Te main kehna k es lyi mainly responsible ne Harayane diyan khap panchaitan...
te han ehda solution vi ehi hai k literacy within the people of Rural area should be increased..
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby Gulabo Massi » July 5th, 2010, 10:55 pm

manvir88jatt wrote:@ yank brar

marrying someone from your own village is not sign of being modern dude , read psychology you will come to know the reason indian culture and indian people have hardly any incest cases , and child molestation . all coz breeding is meant to be done with different set of genes not with same blood. can u marry your own cousin ? why not you are living in canada , you are modern enough


I have to agree with you here. Pind i call everyone veer or behn thats how we are are brought up there. but nowadays pind vi shehar varge ban gye its not the same anymore sadly

manvir88jatt wrote:also i dont know why other than jassi's case or jagir kaur's daughter case i never heard of any other honour killing , maybe i lived among good people.


you got to be kidding. we didnt live among animals either. Its called "reading the news"

@Bling Singh . Meinu ni lagda literacy karkay aa. coach parhiya likhiya ni si oh? ohdha hee mentality o ehdha di aa loka di
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby Bling-Singh » July 5th, 2010, 11:16 pm

@Bling Singh . Meinu ni lagda literacy karkay aa. coach parhiya likhiya ni si oh? ohdha hee mentality o ehdha di aa loka di



har bande di mentality wakh wakh hundi a

munda rab kole bhakra ch thaaka deta si ohnu

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Re: Honour Killing

Postby ankhiking » July 5th, 2010, 11:29 pm

ਇਕ ਸ਼ਲਾਘਾਯੋਗ ਉੱਦਮ.
If you kill, We will protect


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Lets all stand together against this feudal and talibani attitude which leads to so called honour killings ! RYA Punjab announces to give shelter to all couples who are under life threat !!
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manvir88jatt » July 6th, 2010, 2:01 am

Gulabo Massi wrote:
manvir88jatt wrote:@ yank brar

marrying someone from your own village is not sign of being modern dude , read psychology you will come to know the reason indian culture and indian people have hardly any incest cases , and child molestation . all coz breeding is meant to be done with different set of genes not with same blood. can u marry your own cousin ? why not you are living in canada , you are modern enough


I have to agree with you here. Pind i call everyone veer or behn thats how we are are brought up there. but nowadays pind vi shehar varge ban gye its not the same anymore sadly

manvir88jatt wrote:also i dont know why other than jassi's case or jagir kaur's daughter case i never heard of any other honour killing , maybe i lived among good people.


you got to be kidding. we didnt live among animals either. Its called "reading the news"

@Bling Singh . Meinu ni lagda literacy karkay aa. coach parhiya likhiya ni si oh? ohdha hee mentality o ehdha di aa loka di



massi i agree too pind ch viyah na karan de boht reasons ne ,
and regardin other point i have never heard of anyother case in my city
maybe coz there were mostly hindus .

But a big BUT i dont justify honour killing but the poster it clearly give wrong message . ainwe miss pooja de gaane sunke jehde ashiqui karde ne te gharo bhajjde ne ohna ne dekhyeo ehna kol chale jana te punjab ch berha baih jana
people who are against honour killing . how many of you are in favor of inter caste marriages ???
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby arehill » July 6th, 2010, 4:52 am

"just coz few crack heads did it doesnt mean everyone is like that." You said it, Manvir...........so don't paint everyone with the same brush. These "crackheads" exist in all communities.
"also i dont know why other than jassi's case or jagir kaur's daughter case i never heard of any other honour killing , maybe i lived among good people." Um no, that's because you live in a bubble. There wouldn't be such an uproar about the issue if these were random, rare incidents.
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby badamo » July 6th, 2010, 5:01 am

One honour killing a month in Punjab - Express India
Chandigarh Every month one honour killing takes place in Punjab. As per data complied for the first time by the Crime wing of the Punjab Police, during the past two-and-a-half years
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby princeghuman » July 6th, 2010, 5:14 am

m in favor of inter caste marriages , ek passe loki kehnde a ke sadde gurua ne keha a ke jaat paat ch vishwas na karo par jad kudi toran di wari aoundi a te kehnde a ke munda jattan da e chaheda a bhave jatt da putt sire da smackia hove par kise padde likhe bahman naal kudi nahi torange , esse foki tohr karke kudia mardia a , kudia bhaldia a ke munda oh mile jehda sari umar khush rakhe te maa peo bhalda a ke munda eho jeha mile jehda rishtedara ch numbr bna deve n i dnt thnk literacy mattr in dis case its just d way ppl thnk dat our culture is above all n dey just dnt wnt to knw abt odr culture, ah goria da culture dekh lao koi caste system nai es layi ethe koi honour killing nahi
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manvir88jatt » July 6th, 2010, 12:18 pm

arehill wrote:"just coz few crack heads did it doesnt mean everyone is like that." You said it, Manvir...........so don't paint everyone with the same brush. These "crackheads" exist in all communities.
"also i dont know why other than jassi's case or jagir kaur's daughter case i never heard of any other honour killing , maybe i lived among good people." Um no, that's because you live in a bubble. There wouldn't be such an uproar about the issue if these were random, rare incidents.



well i am not painting anyone bro
and i am more than happy to live in this so called bubble coz i have more troubles in my life to worry about

like seriously more people die by road accidents , more people die by aids or cancer
more people die by drugs and number of female foeticide is even higher

i am in no way supporting honour killing , i am against it but my only concern is how many of these honour killings victims had real love and what are the chances that if we make a law against it youth wont exploit it ?


atleast in half of those cases girls were too young to get married or the guys they were with were wrong

i hope somebody gets my point .



this song has beautiful lines abt same case, lesson for both parents n kids
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby Bling-Singh » July 6th, 2010, 12:32 pm

AJ TRibune ch headlines hi dekh lo lol

Inter caste ties behind most honour crimes
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manmeet kaur » July 6th, 2010, 12:46 pm

princeghuman wrote: ek passe loki kehnde a ke sadde gurua ne keha a ke jaat paat ch vishwas na karo par jad kudi toran di wari aoundi a te kehnde a ke munda jattan da e chaheda a bhave jatt da putt sire da smackia hove par kise padde likhe bahman naal kudi nahi torange , esse foki tohr karke kudia mardia a , kudia bhaldia a ke munda oh mile jehda sari umar khush rakhe te maa peo bhalda a ke munda eho jeha mile jehda rishtedara ch numbr bna deve n i dnt thnk literacy mattr in dis case its just d way ppl thnk dat our culture is above all n dey just dnt wnt to knw abt odr culture, ah goria da culture dekh lao koi caste system nai es layi ethe koi honour killing nahi

prince .....mai tuhade naal puri tara sehmat ha..
@manvir jatt.. i m in favour of inter caste marriages..

je koi bacha castism nu nai manda bt parents castism nu mande aa..ta usnu society ya relatives val dekhan ly keha janda..te parents nu lagda k isnu duniyadari da nai pata... apne bache di thinking nu appreciate ta ki karna..ulta usnu emotional blackmail karn lag jande aa...
je koi person castism nu nai manda...ta daso kida oh apne relatives ya family di tara manan lag jae castism nu...
kehan nu apa lok develop ho rae aa..bt mainu ta lagda apa aggey nu jaan di bjae piche nu jaa rae aa..
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby yank_brar » July 6th, 2010, 2:56 pm

manvir88jatt wrote:@ yank brar

marrying someone from your own village is not sign of being modern dude , read psychology you will come to know the reason indian culture and indian people have hardly any incest cases , and child molestation . all coz breeding is meant to be done with different set of genes not with same blood. can u marry your own cousin ? why not you are living in canada , you are modern enough

your comments makes me laugh...so as per you all the people in a village have the same blood line..this the most ridiculous statement i have ever read.... how can you say there are less cases of child molestation in indian culture? there are many cases likes these everyday but they are not reported in media... media wasn't much spread except the past 4-5 years....Example..there are 1000's of accidents on punjab state roads but they all are not covered by media..so you can't say that the roads in punjab are safe as there are no accidents ....end of story.
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manmeet kaur » July 6th, 2010, 3:11 pm

manvir88jatt wrote:
my only concern is how many of these honour killings victims had real love and what are the chances that if we make a law against it youth wont exploit it ?

atleast in half of those cases girls were too young to get married or the guys they were with were wrong


mainu samjh nai aa ry... boy/girl ne apni jaan he deti.. te tusi puch rae ho ..how many of these victims had real love.. :x

jis person ne jaan he deti...hale v tuhanu doubt aa...

jina ch real love nai hunda oh ehna pangea ch painde he nai....pela he keh dinde hunde aa k mai veah nai karva sakda/sakdi tere nal...
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby Bling-Singh » July 6th, 2010, 3:16 pm

colleges ch mostly dekhea hou sarea ne

je kisi kuri piche koi munda a na te oh kisi apne frnd naal gal kar rahi hai te munde aa jande ne kuttan de lai lol

ida hi 2 mundea da murder hoya si joria pathia ch 2 weeks phela


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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manvir88jatt » July 6th, 2010, 4:02 pm

@ all

i am glad you guys had good laugh after reading my comments but i cant help it if u guys dont get it

marrying someone from your own village is wrong in my opinion if you guys dont think so , none of my problem. and regarding true love boy or girl were murdered , do you think they were asked about their last wish? true love doesnt mean leaving ur parents just for one person u think u want to spend rest of your life with.


all i am trying to say is there is more ashiqui (type of real love shown in miss pooja's songs) leading to honour killing than true love.

I am not justifying honour killing but i wonder why no one is thinking what other options parents have. like why would someone murder their own kid ??
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manmeet kaur » July 6th, 2010, 7:24 pm

@ manvir jatt..

mainu tuhada point samjh aa gya si..

bt mai sirf ehi kehna si k tusi kise de pyar te doubt nai kar sakde..jis person ne apni jaan he de diti hoe...
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby rocky16 » July 7th, 2010, 3:44 pm

Main Manvir bai naal kaafi sehmat han ....

bachean nu ghar chhadan ton pehlan Maapean de honour baare sochna chahida, par maape je ethe tak gall pahunchan na den tan changi gall hai.....

ajj de samay ch Caste/Class da difference ghat reha....islayi bachean di choice je hor saare pakhan ton theek howe taa sirf caste de base te maa baap nu rigid nai hona chaahida......

but je maape nai v raazi...tan bachean nu maapea nal raazi ho jana chaahida kyu ke ohna ne v inne saal bachean nu pyar hee kita hai.....so ohna de pyaar nu kise hor de pyar agge chhota kar ke ohna nu sharminda nai karna chaahida.....

jo apne maa baap de inne saalan de pyar da mull nai samajh sakea, oh kise hor de pyar da mull v nai paa sakda.....

but still i m not in favour of Honour killing.....je koi gharo bhajj hee gea hai...tan acceptance honi chaahidi hai....na ke rigidity....

te esnu kise dharam yaa punjabiya nal nai jodea jana chaahida.....Punjabi lok apne bacheaa nu bauht pyar karde ne....oh enne akhadd nai,,...aisian gallaan nal Punjab di image kharaab hundi hai.....Punjabi v padhe likhe sensible lok ne.....apne bacheaan nu maaran ch koi anakh nai....
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manvir88jatt » July 7th, 2010, 10:00 pm

manmeet kaur wrote:@ manvir jatt..

mainu tuhada point samjh aa gya si..

bt mai sirf ehi kehna si k tusi kise de pyar te doubt nai kar sakde..jis person ne apni jaan he de diti hoe...


@ manmeet

person ne jaan ditti nahi gawayi hai , people just kill for their honour , maran wale bande nu nahi pata hunda ke usnu maarya ja sakda otherwise if given a chance or option to choose i bet they will go for their life than their love.

true love is not getting eloped with that person, its doing something in life , achieving something that convinces his or her parents that u r right choice

in most of the cases in these so called true love girls and guys dont have proper education , dont have proper job and stable foundation in life.

if i had to do the same thing i would rather get a decent job and than take a stand and tell my and her parents that i am what u r looking for. gharo bhajjna koi sacha pyaar nahi te na hi bahadri hai. and in punjab i know its all fake ashiqui coz i have seen it in colleges but western media thinks its violation of human rights but in reality its all impact of our miss pooja bhainji's songs on young minds.

a girl from my school took 10 lakh cash n jewellry from her house and eloped with some guy , if her parents kill her now it will be honour killing and there will be big hue n cry over it

BUT lets see the other side of story

she is in grade 11th , stole money , the guy is in either grade 11 or 12 . Now what are the chances that its true love and they will survive on their own and love each other forever ? And not to mention intercaste too ,

sounds too extreme

well here u go a girl eloped with guy , both study in college , same class.love each other a lot

lets look at the other side guy's parents pay for his tution , expenses , his pocket money. he is doing bachelors and like other unemployed degree holders he hardly has any future of making it big , unless he works hard now and try to do something but no he is in love with this girl and hardly have time for anything .

AND ALSO REGARDING MUSLIM HONOUR KILLINGS

many of the posts were pointing at me saying how can i differentiate between sikh and muslims in this case

well muslim honour killings are of two types , muslims outside their country tryin to marry their kids to someone from their own country and when kids saying no than killing them

or muslims in pakistan killing or throwing acid on their wives questioning their chastity . this is real honour killing. and in 99.99% of the cases guys are drunk and their wives die for no reason.

i am not fan of honour killing but atleast give ur parents a chance , prove urself and let them decide.

You know whats real honour killing , when punjabis take money from their parents , live the best life possible even though their parents work hard for it and deep inside they are dying and killing themselves making sacrifices for their kids and after that kids run away with their true love killing the very people who love them most.
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Re: Honour Killing

Postby manmeet kaur » July 7th, 2010, 10:51 pm

@manvir jatt

ji mai v gharo bhaj k veah karon di favour ch nai ha...mainu lagea k shayd tuhanu lagda hoe k mai favour ch ha.soo

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