Honour Killing

[badamo]

gharo nasan wale vi te una nu marne wale............dono he galat ne.

[Gulabo Massi]

^ Sad Story

some more i came across, its such a misfortune that these beautiful faces were brutally murdered by their own blood
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... llery.html

the incedent of amina and sarah said sabh toh bura laga

sum punjabi /canadian girls like jaswinder , amandeep atwal, were killed too

[manvir88jatt]

^ Sad Story

some more i came across, its such a misfortune that these beautiful faces were brutally murdered by their own blood
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... llery.html

the incedent of amina and sarah said sabh toh bura laga

sum punjabi /canadian girls like jaswinder , amandeep atwal, were killed too

all of them are muslim , we cant relate to them or their stories to this topic . its sad and i am against it but its true , their faith and religion somehow is like that.

[Bling-Singh]

agreed with manvir bai

[arehill]

Another old case of honour killing...........this one was based on social status - poor boy/rich girl.......case still remains open.

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2003/10/05/mom_gave_long_distance_order_for_honor_killing_police_say/

A valid point can be argued for both sides of the fence, but at the end of the day honour killing is simply wrong, taking another human life willfully is still wrong.

[princeghuman]

eda da hadsa ohna naal hunda jehna de maa baap es duniya to te apne rishtedara to darde a ja jehre sari umar foki tohr banoun ch lagge rehnde a

[Bling-Singh]

eh pange di main gal eh hai k understanding

aj vi ida de case punjab delhi mumbai ch sunan nu mil rahe hai

te jad ida di koi khabar news ch vi aundi a ta vi oh breaking news ch vi nai highlight hundi


parents apne change relation karke apne bachea di khushi da galha got dinde ne

dekhea jawe ta eh cases di jarr kitho shuru hundi te kithe mukdi a koi vi nai janda

[manvir88jatt]

Another old case of honour killing...........this one was based on social status - poor boy/rich girl.......case still remains open.

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2003/10/05/mom_gave_long_distance_order_for_honor_killing_police_say/

A valid point can be argued for both sides of the fence, but at the end of the day honour killing is simply wrong, taking another human life willfully is still wrong.

well yaar eh ta bilkul galat gall aa , pehla ta jassi ne apne nanke ya shayad apne hi pind de munde naal viyah karwaya
jehda ki usda hi cousin laggeya ik tarah nal kyonki koi vi apne pind viyah ni karwaonda hunda
dooja oh banda auto rickshaw chalaonda si te je tusi documentry dekho ta saaf pata lagda ohda sirf paise te bahar aoun tak matlab si

jassi nu ohde ghardeya ne samjhaya par oh nahi manni. usnu maaran nu justify nahi kita ja sakda par ohda vi kasoor si is case ch

[yank_brar]

Another old case of honour killing...........this one was based on social status - poor boy/rich girl.......case still remains open.

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http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2003/10/05/mom_gave_long_distance_order_for_honor_killing_police_say/

A valid point can be argued for both sides of the fence, but at the end of the day honour killing is simply wrong, taking another human life willfully is still wrong.

well yaar eh ta bilkul galat gall aa , pehla ta jassi ne apne nanke ya shayad apne hi pind de munde naal viyah karwaya
jehda ki usda hi cousin laggeya ik tarah nal kyonki koi vi apne pind viyah ni karwaonda hunda
dooja oh banda auto rickshaw chalaonda si te je tusi documentry dekho ta saaf pata lagda ohda sirf paise te bahar aoun tak matlab si

jassi nu ohde ghardeya ne samjhaya par oh nahi manni. usnu maaran nu justify nahi kita ja sakda par ohda vi kasoor si is case ch

i don't get it you are living in canada but your thinking is still somewhat backward...like pind ch nai veah karwauna..its 21st century dude not a stone age.....i've been through the whole topic and those who think that killing someone can be justified they all need to get their heads examined...i feel disgusted when some of you think ke parents di izzat is more valuable then someones life.. i am not saying that there's no value of parents izzat but you can not justify izzat by killing someone..and i think our so called indian culture and values is full of hypocrites...as someones said in the posts ke munda kujh galat kare ta koi gal nai te je kudi kujh kar dawe then it becomes your prestige/izzat matter..i feel sad for my generation who are still stuck in the baloney of our senseless/useless...tradition/culture....just LIVE AND LET LIVE.

[badamo]

Tarn Taran (Punjab): They paid for their love with their lives. Newly-married couple Balkar Singh and Ravindar Pal Kaur were shot dead at their village in Taran Taran, allegedly by members of the girls family.


Balkar was gunned down in the market and Ravindar was killed inside their house.


Says Balkar Singh’s mother, “After the marriage, the couple had come to the house for the first time. Balkar had gone to buy eatables in the nearby market for his relatives who were coming from England. A group of armed persons alighted from three cars and chased him”.
The two got married on January 1 and on the same day Ravindar filed a writ in the Punjab and Haryana High Court saying she feared threat to their lives from her family.


They were killed the day the police received the order from the court to give them protection


Says Tarn Taran SSP H.S Chahal, “Her father, brother and some other relatives armed with firearms killed the newly weds couple”.


Police say all the accused -- Ravindar's parents, her brother and her cousins are now absconding.

[arehill]

@manvir
Don't know much about the cultural sensitivity surrounding this issue of marrying with someone within your village, because he is considered family........but I'm glad that at least you agree it still doesn't justify the killing. For a mother to specifically give orders for killing her own child is beyond reprehensible.
If pride and honour will always be valued above human life, then I guess this will never end.

[badamo]

AMRITSAR: A non-resident Indian (NRI) will be produced in a court here on Wednesday following his arrest on Tuesday night for allegedly murdering his teenaged step-daughter in a suspected case of honour killing.
Mehtab Singh was arrested after the police got a tip-off that he had brought his step-daughter Amritpal Kaur, 17, from Brussels, Belgium, earlier this month and clandestinely cremated her here after saying that she died of food poisoning.
Police officials said the death of the girl seemed to be mysterious and that the step-father had shown undue urgency in cremating her.

The police are investigating if the girl was killed by Mehtab Singh as she had fallen in love with a youth, Lakhwinder Singh, in Belgium.
Lakhwinder belonged to another lower caste and this was not to the liking of Mehtab Singh. He is believed to have poisoned her a few days back and got her cremated.

The victim's mother, Rajbir Kaur, had married Mehtab a few years ago after her husband, Mehtab's brother, died.

[arehill]

And here's the latest from today's edition of Tribune newspaper online (article is long, I've posted only a portion of it):

"At 1,000 cases a year, India matches Pak in menace
R Sedhuraman
Legal Correspondent

New Delhi, July 4
As many as 1,000 boys and girls fall prey to honour killings every year in India, with Punjab, Haryana and Uttar Pradesh alone accounting for 900, according to a research paper presented at an international conference in London last week.

At this rate, the incidence of such killings in India is as high as the prevalence rate in Pakistan, which tops the global list of such crimes, the paper prepared by two Chandigarh-based experts said.

The crime is committed not only in the Muslim community but also among Sikhs and Hindus, they said."

So there you have it - there is no single community/religion that leads the pack, this evil is amongst all of us.

[Gulabo Massi]

@manvir and bling singh, What muslims and "we" have in common is that the reason they give behind killing some1 giving the name "honor killing" is the same.

Yanky, Have u ever lived in pind orcity in india ?? if U did for how long?

jassi had never been to punjab, ohnu eh sabh nahin pata hona. ehd gal de kasoorvar usde parents ne.
i very much dislike the guy mithu ive seen his interviews and the documentary made about them.
He showed pictures of him kissing her to the public. if he had any respect for her, he wouldnt. oh ta punjab ch hee reha ohnu ta kujh sang sharam chahidi. Till now he says vi ohnu india khatra and he wants to go abroad. Jasii sent him money all the time. he was just using her.

jassi da father is paralyzed. ohdhe nanke and her family lived together. everything happend as her Mama said. i blve there was a solution to this if they wanted to figure out one. if they gave mihthu money (wht i blve he wanted) he would move away from jassi.

does anybody remember about bibi jagir kaurs daughter? news ch boht aya si uss vare her pictures and cards to her husband

[badamo]

The attitudes towards women and "honor" which drive these murders is nothing short of sick and twisted - there is simply nothing positive that can be said about it. The people involved should be treated by the harshest measures allowed under the law, . These "honor" killings wouldn't occur if society treated women better generally

[yank_brar]

Gulabo ..i lived in India for 18 years in the city of Amritsar.

[PawanKumar]

The young people in some parts of the northern India have to follow some rules before falling in love or marrying as per their choice.There is a certain code of conduct to be followed by the youngsters especially the women.An the violation to such a code will get them killed.Such cases are getting increased day by day in India.Marrying as per choice is considered as the spoiling of the reputation of the family and the parents dare to kill their child.They don't even regret performing such an act.Does an individual do not have the freedom to live as per choice?Does the so called reputation of the family gets spoiled if a girl child gets married?IS Indian society is still living like a barbarous society? The development of the nation have not brought an end to such an act?The law and order never stringently acts upon the family.Such a social biasness should not be tolerated in the civil society. Acting leniently and providing the way to the crime by the law is a practice which is adding up to this activity

[arehill]

^ Sad Story

some more i came across, its such a misfortune that these beautiful faces were brutally murdered by their own blood
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... llery.html

the incedent of amina and sarah said sabh toh bura laga

sum punjabi /canadian girls like jaswinder , amandeep atwal, were killed too

all of them are muslim , we cant relate to them or their stories to this topic . its sad and i am against it but its true , their faith and religion somehow is like that.

Really?? How come, since a majority of cases happening in Punjab are of Sikh faith?? Just because the article you read deals with Muslim-related cases doesn't mean this problem is isolated to one faith, it is a universal one, affecting more than just Muslims.

[manvir88jatt]

@ yank brar

marrying someone from your own village is not sign of being modern dude , read psychology you will come to know the reason indian culture and indian people have hardly any incest cases , and child molestation . all coz breeding is meant to be done with different set of genes not with same blood. can u marry your own cousin ? why not you are living in canada , you are modern enough

@ arehill

dude the article shows how married men accused their wives of cheating on them and threw sulphuric acid on their faces . and mostly muslims killing their daughters. The brutality shown by them is miles ahead of what punjabis do. its nothin to be proud of but you cant put sikhs in the same league. just coz few crack heads did it doesnt mean everyone is like that. also i dont know why other than jassi's case or jagir kaur's daughter case i never heard of any other honour killing , maybe i lived among good people.

[badamo]

Not just in Punjab and Haryana, but in western Uttar Pradesh as well, women are being put to death if they “violate” the honour of their family and community by marrying a person outside her own caste, community or religion. ... According to Aidwa, 10 per cent of murders in Punjab and Haryana are honour killings. ... Aidwa points out that in cases involving couples from upper castes, there is always an effort to save the young man. “The woman from the same caste, however, will be killed for destroying the honour of the family and community,” the report says. The girl’s death is never reported. “It is as if she never existed,” it adds.